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  DA Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus  printable version

DIRECTORS INTERVIEW

DA Pennebaker and Chris Hegedus discuss making The War Room and how history has changed our perceptions of it.

 
 

BBC Four: The film turned out quite differently from what you originally conceived didn't it?
Chris Hegedus: When we started The War Room, the idea was to watch a man become president. Our intention was to follow the candidates and go through this process with one of them. In the end we weren't granted the type of access necessary to make that sort of story, so we had to look around and ask, "Is there something else we can make here?" And the Clinton campaign was by far the most interesting one going, and then of course we stumbled upon James Carville.

BBC Four: Were you aware of Carville before?
CH: Not at all. He was someone we discovered in the process of making the movie. He was the Head of Strategy for the campaign and we thought, "My god, I can't believe this is the guy who's heading it, but if he is he'll certainly make a good character." And especially with George [Stephanopoulos] being a counterpart, a kind of buddy thing.

BBC Four: It is an odd film to watch with benefit of hindsight.
CH: It is strange, and parts of it are totally undone, like the beginning of the film with Jennifer Flowers. Clinton admitted to having an affair with her. These films that are about historical subjects change incredibly based on subsequent events.

DA Pennebaker: They are so focussed on the moment when they are done that they become like flies caught in amber. Not much that we have of history has that quality because it gets constantly sorted out by historians and people whose business it is to explain what or why it happened. This film doesn't explain anything, it just shows.

BBC Four: US elections get so much TV coverage. How did you think you were doing something different?
DAP: It's interesting. On the day of the election, suddenly ABC, who produced the Six O'Clock News, said they wanted to come into the War Room. And of course they were invited right in. We'd been there for months, and it felt that this was our little province, because no press was supposed to go into the War Room. But what they did was to centre the programme around Ted Koppel, the guy whose show it was. They could have made our film completely, but it didn't fit what they needed to do. It took too long to generate. It would've been a year before any of that stuff could be put out in way that people could go look at it.

BBC Four: Watching it now it seems so full of optimism for the Clinton administration.
DAP: You do see all those hopes and dreams. A year after we finished the film we showed it to everybody down in Washington. They came out of it really shellshocked because even after one year in the White House they were so burnt out. And watching their idealism in that film was very moving to a lot of the staff because it helped them to remember why they're there. It's a record of that spirit.

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THE WAR ROOM
"Anyone who wants the real dope on American politics has to watch this film "

  James Carville
LIVE CHAT TRANSCRIPT
Pennebaker and Hegedus on Clinton, Dylan and bad TV
DA Pennebaker

 

Further links

The Talk Show: Clinton
Clips and transcript of Joe Klein and Charles Wheeler's discussion of Clinton's presidency

Pennebaker Hegedus Films
Loads of info on all the couple's films


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